>> I don't think it's a controversial statement for me to say that there is a lot of misinformation being spread right now and undated with false facts and false narratives that lead them to reach false conclusions.

It's not an issue of smart enough, dumb enough.

You've been intentionally tricked.

There's no shame in that.

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♪ Just words in scary stories ♪ ♪ The sound is so distorted, it's not even real ♪ ♪ Just maps of territories ♪ ♪ History is allegory, the story is sealed ♪ ♪ Whoa!

♪ (band playing) (pop rock music) ♪ What's a fair price for a cup of coffee?

♪ ♪ It starts fine, then it crosses a line ♪ ♪ This presentation holds the weight of your name ♪ ♪ What's the word for a copy of a copy ♪ ♪ Hard lines, there's no room to imply ♪ ♪ It's not a lie, but the truth is empty all the same ♪ ♪ What's the word for a copy of a copy ♪ ♪ With no original to find?

♪ ♪ It feels fine till it crosses the line, ♪ ♪ It's up to you to decide when you've seen enough ♪ ♪ Of words in scary stories ♪ ♪ The sound is so distorted, it's not even real ♪ ♪ Just maps of territories ♪ ♪ History is allegory, the story is sealed ♪ ♪ What a glorious deal ♪ ♪ Set aside what you're trying to find ♪ ♪ By bringing monsters to life and defeating them ♪ ♪ The first time that it enters your mind ♪ ♪ That no one's feeding you lies, ♪ ♪ You're just eating them, ♪ ♪ You're just eating them ♪ ♪ We pay the price for bring creatures of habit ♪ ♪ Turn lies into carnival rides ♪ ♪ Twist you in circles till you're sick from the spin ♪ ♪ Repeat the process till it's automatic ♪ ♪ Go blind to the scales in your eyes ♪ ♪ You spill your guts and then you ride it again ♪ ♪ Whats the price of a cup of coffee?

♪ ♪ Exactly what you had in mind ♪ ♪ Turn lies into carnival rides, ♪ ♪ It's up to you to decide when you've seen enough ♪ ♪ Of words in scary stories ♪ ♪ The sound is so distorted, it's not even real ♪ ♪ Just maps of territories ♪ ♪ History is allegory, the story is sealed ♪ ♪ What a glorious deal ♪ ♪ Set aside what you're trying to find ♪ ♪ By bringing monsters to life and defeating them ♪ ♪ The first time that it enters your mind ♪ ♪ That no one's feeding you lies, ♪ ♪ You're just eating them, ♪ ♪ You're just eating them ♪ (band playing) (pop rock music) (soft music) ♪ Set aside what you're trying to find ♪ ♪ By bringing monsters to life and defeating them ♪ ♪ The first time that it enters your mind ♪ ♪ That no one's feeding you lies, ♪ ♪ You're just eating them, ♪ ♪ What has been done is what will be done ♪ ♪ Generations gone as soon as the next one comes ♪ ♪ Forgotten past we all become ♪ ♪ Fill up the seas, the rivers and streams still run ♪ ♪ Chase after wind, spin around the sun ♪ ♪ What has been done will be done ♪ ♪ You're just eating them, ♪ ♪ What's a fair price for a cup of coffee ♪ ♪ Everything is a copy of a copy ♪ ♪ What's a fair price for a cup of coffee ♪ ♪ Everything is a copy of a copy ♪ ♪ Just words in scary stories ♪ (guitar playing) ♪ Day drunk ♪ ♪ That's what I'll be ♪ ♪ If you walk away ♪ ♪ If you walk away ♪ ♪ Walk away from me ♪ ♪ Red faced ♪ ♪ My legs filled with jelly up to my knees ♪ ♪ That's how I'll stay, ♪ ♪ That's how I'll stay, ♪ ♪ Let cement set around my feet ♪ ♪ Eyes glazed, sugar on my teeth ♪ ♪ You're blowing away, ♪ ♪ You're blowing away, ♪ ♪ I'm swinging from tree to tree.

♪ ♪ Please wait ♪ ♪ If you weren't you, I could not be me ♪ ♪ That's what I'd say, ♪ ♪ That's what I'd say, but nobody's listening ♪ ♪ And you just sit there glaring at me, ♪ ♪ At my face all drunk and happy ♪ ♪ Cause there's nothing you can say to me no more ♪ ♪ And as the wind picks up I'll wonder ♪ ♪ At this rain cloud that I'm under ♪ ♪ You're the lightning, I'm the thunder, ♪ ♪ Let it storm ♪ >> DJ got a beer.

It's DJ!

(guitar playing) (band playing) ♪ And you just sit there glaring at me, ♪ ♪ At my face all drunk and happy ♪ ♪ Cause there's nothing you can say to me no more ♪ ♪ And as the wind picks up I'll wonder ♪ ♪ At this rain cloud that I'm under ♪ ♪ You're the lightning, I'm the thunder, ♪ ♪ Let it storm ♪ ♪ Day drunk ♪ ♪ That's what I'll be ♪ ♪ If you walk away ♪ ♪ If you walk away ♪ ♪ Walk away from me ♪ >> Kris: Writing a catchy compelling song, well, the thing that you said can be like pushing your boundaries.

>> Of course, and we're trying to make songs or albums that reward multiple listens.

So you can kind of get a little something new every time you come back where it's like, "Wow that's the base is going crazy there.

I had no idea.

I was just listening to the song before and now I hear he's doing this crazy run under there."

And it's just like for a split second, that comes out and then it goes away and you miss it if you're not looking for it.

So the more you come back, the more, hopefully, you'll get out of every listen.

>> One of the things with the musicianship element is like, you have to let it be a short song that doesn't have like a lot of stuff.

It's a good song.

Nobody cares how much stuff is going on.

That is one of the challenging elements with that.

You need to let it be short if a song is saying, this is a short song.

>> DJ: I want the audience to have fun and the best way to tell them "you should be having fun right now," is by having fun.

>> If you feel nervous and you're trying to remember all your parts and all that kind of thing, the audience can feel that.

So if you just know your stuff and you go out there and you let your mistakes come out, you do whatever and just make them sound right, then you're having fun.

>> Boy, have we done some of those?

>> That's the mission statement is to kind of push our own personal boundaries as musicians while not sacrificing writing good catchy, relatable music.

>> And I'm always looking for musical moments, things that like catch you and make you go, "Oh!"

>> Like "that's why they did this."

>> Or like, "Ohh," I like those.

Those are cool too.

>> And pushing- >> Or like, "Ohhhh" >> That okay, that one's a good one.

(laughing) >> You forgot about, "Oh" >> I don't like that one >> That's not what we want ♪ Hey lonesome, are you lonesome as me?

♪ ♪ No you didn't reply ♪ ♪ Just took the drink that I poured you, ♪ ♪ And swore and then sucked the glass dry ♪ ♪ And would you love me if I was half machine?

♪ ♪ Could you keep my heart still and make my lungs breathe?

♪ ♪ And would you trust me to take care of my soul?

♪ ♪ Could you bear the thought ♪ ♪ That you're not in constant control?

♪ ♪ I was wishing I was different ♪ ♪ But I'm not different at all ♪ ♪ Hey lonesome, are you lonesome as me?

♪ ♪ No you didn't reply ♪ ♪ Just took the drink that I poured you, ♪ ♪ And swore and then sucked the glass dry ♪ ♪ You swore to me I had no soul ♪ ♪ I want to take back all the thoughts you stole ♪ ♪ And so we'll sit in this car at the bar ♪ ♪ And watch the people pass by ♪ ♪ As the sun sets on me and my cigarettes, ♪ ♪ It struck me hard in the throat, ♪ ♪ Sang the note that its not over yet ♪ ♪ As the moon rose and I took off my clothes ♪ ♪ I felt it down my back, I'm relaxed and reposed ♪ ♪ Hey lonesome, are you lonesome as me?

♪ ♪ No you didn't reply ♪ ♪ Just took the drink that I poured you, ♪ ♪ And swore and then you sucked the glass dry ♪ ♪ You swore to me I had no soul ♪ ♪ I want to take back all the thoughts you stole ♪ ♪ And so we'll sit in this car at the bar ♪ ♪ And watch the people pass by ♪ (band playing) (pop rock music) (guitar playing) ♪ I hope the drive, it drives you crazy ♪ ♪ You'll wish you never asked me in ♪ ♪ I hope the sun comes up and melts me ♪ ♪ So I never suck your blood again ♪ ♪ I hope the drive, it drives you crazy ♪ ♪ You'll wish you never asked me in ♪ ♪ I hope the sun comes up and melts me ♪ ♪ So I never suck your blood again ♪ ♪ Hey lonesome, are you lonesome as me?

♪ ♪ No you didn't reply ♪ ♪ Just took the drink that I poured you, ♪ ♪ And swore and then you sucked the glass dry ♪ ♪ You swore to me I had no soul ♪ ♪ I want to take back all the thoughts you stole ♪ ♪ And so we'll sit in this car at the bar ♪ ♪ And watch the people pass by ♪ (band playing) (pop rock music) (drums rolling) (band playing) (pop rock music) (band playing) ♪ Hourglass set the wrong pace today ♪ ♪ Felt the sand between my feet ♪ ♪ Felt peace that buried me ♪ ♪ Turned on its side to keep time away ♪ ♪ Time just grinds its teeth ♪ ♪ Cause nothing beats this dizzy feeling ♪ ♪ No harm in hope for healing ♪ ♪ Breathe, can you breathe?

♪ ♪ Can you breathe on your own?

♪ ♪ Speak, I can speak ♪ ♪ I can speak, but I won't ♪ (band playing) ♪ Obsessed on past life mistakes today ♪ ♪ Built reality from dreams that drew and quartered me ♪ ♪ Went back to sleep to keep shame away ♪ ♪ No truth found in dreams can help me shake ♪ ♪ The fear that's building ♪ ♪ Self-healing, self-fulfilling ♪ ♪ Breathe, can you breathe?

♪ ♪ Can you breathe all on your own?

♪ ♪ Speak, I can speak ♪ ♪ I can speak, but I won't ♪ ♪ My floating stone ♪ (band playing) (guitar playing) ♪ Legacy ♪ (guitar playing) ♪ Is a cliff that you can't climb to ♪ (guitar playing) ♪ You never see ♪ (guitar playing) ♪ The peak till it's behind you ♪ ♪ It sometimes hurts to try to ♪ ♪ Legacy is a cliff that you can't climb to ♪ ♪ You never see the peak till it's behind you ♪ ♪ You never reach, this cannot be defined, ♪ ♪ You'll spend forever hanging on ♪ ♪ Breathe, can you breathe?

♪ ♪ Can you breathe all on your own?

♪ ♪ Speak, I can speak ♪ ♪ I can speak, but I won't ♪ ♪ Breathe, can you breathe?

♪ ♪ Can you breathe all on your own?

♪ ♪ Speak, I can speak ♪ ♪ I can speak, but I won't ♪ ♪ My floating stone ♪ (music fading) (guitar playing) >> DJ: The instrumentals generally come from Kris.

I have a little bit to do with that as well.

And then I write all of the lyrics and vocal lines.

I really like it.

It makes it really easy to, you know, be a little bit more personal.

Share a little bit more 'cause I never have to say it.

(laughing) >> Yeah.

'Cause I don't know what he's talking half the time.

So I can sing I just give it all out there.

I don't have an English degree, like some people but I am like a smart guy sometimes.

>> Right >> So I can say, I will say like, this is not gonna come across in front of the band, right?

Or like the thematically, we should look a different direction.

We talked about that before >> It just sings better if you say it this way, you know, whereas I'm writing it on paper or on my phone, looking at the lyrics and seeing what reads the best and what reads the best doesn't always sing the best.

>> Kris: In a project that you're playing with has to create some sort of chemistry between the three of you, right?

And sometimes that chemistry doesn't really work.

If there has to be three different personalities that have handled separate tasks and are okay with handling those separate tasks, and you're totally right that flows over into other aspects like working with other people and not being a jerk and accomplishing something that you want to do.

That is every aspect of your life.

>> Part of that is just knowing your role.

>> DJ: And we'll generally bring like a verse and a chorus or like a hook or something to Andy and maybe a few other ideas and he'll tell us what of our other ideas are stupid and not working.

Then afterwards, we'll come back without the stupid things that aren't working and we'll have pretty good song on our hands, I think.

Is that the process in a nutshell?

>> That's probably right >> Yeah >> DJ: Songwriting is critical thinking.

It's problem-solving.

All skills.

It's so much problem-solving.

And these are skills that you'll use it in your life every day outside of music.

>> Synthesizing 'cause you have to put separate things that you would not- >> Right.

>> Like they aren't together right now, you can figure out how to like, put together.

That's like scientific.

>> Also for a more concrete example, I met my fiance at a stop drop rewind show and I was like, >> I was gonna do >> "Babe, wait!"

>> I was gonna do his feelings part.

No!

I was gonna do it.

I was like, he didn't say the thing.

Basically, everyone I've met in my life at this point.

Or if that is still like around, I have played music with or I've met through music or I currently make music with them.

So the three of us just hang out.

(guitar playing) (band playing) (pop rock music) ♪ You're feeding into the sound ♪ ♪ That opens up to see more heads turning ♪ ♪ I must have so much to learn, ♪ ♪ So build me up from the ground ♪ ♪ You're feeding into the sound ♪ ♪ Sexual deviant, you only want to know who's watching you ♪ ♪ Smile, show your teeth ♪ ♪ Behind every curtain's an open door ♪ ♪ We're not for you anymore ♪ ♪ That's good enough if it bears repeating ♪ ♪ So shiny sparkling clean ♪ ♪ Do what it takes to be seen ♪ ♪ We've seen enough, repeating ♪ ♪ Sexual deviant, you only want to know who's watching you ♪ ♪ Smile, show your teeth ♪ ♪ Behind every curtain's an open door ♪ ♪ You only want to know who's watching you ♪ ♪ Sticky, sickly sweet ♪ ♪ Behind every curtain's an open door ♪ ♪ We're not for you anymore ♪ (band playing) (electrical guitar playing) (band playing) (band playing intensifies) (pop rock music) ♪ Sickly sweet, that's the way that you want us ♪ ♪ Take your seats, that's the way that we want love ♪ ♪ Show your teeth if the spirit is on you ♪ ♪ Blah, blah, blah double entendre ♪ ♪ That's good enough if it bears repeating ♪ ♪ Still somehow comes out unclean ♪ ♪ Do what it takes to be seen ♪ ♪ We've seen enough, repeating ♪ ♪ Sexual deviant, you only want to know who's watching you ♪ ♪ Smile, show your teeth ♪ ♪ Behind every curtain's an open door ♪ ♪ You only want to know who's watching you ♪ ♪ Sticky, sickly sweet ♪ ♪ Behind every curtain's an open door ♪ ♪ We're not for you anymore ♪ (band playing) ♪ You only want to know who's watching you ♪ ♪ You only want to know who's watching you ♪ ♪ We're not for you anymore ♪ >> Announcer: Support for programming in Lakeshore PBS comes in part from a generous bequest of the estate of Marjorie A.

Mills whose remarkable contribution will help us keep viewers like you informed, inspired, and entertained for years to come.

>> Announcer: Additional support for Lakeshore PBS and In Studio is provided by viewers like you.

Thank you!

>> Narrator: Doing as much as you can, as quickly as you can is important to me.

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>> Narrator: Almost every single professor I've had, I'm on a first name basis.

By building that relationship with faculty, I was able to get involved with research.

It's one thing to read about an idea and a book versus physically doing it and seeing results.

(upbeat music) ♪ Sometimes, I'll do a lot just to be alone ♪ ♪ Tend to your garden till it's overgrown ♪ ♪ I know what you're missing ♪ ♪ That loneliness pours out of you all the time ♪ ♪ I'm the shape of your void, you're the shape of mine ♪ ♪ I know what you're thinking ♪ ♪ I know that there's no reason you feel alone ♪ ♪ That's the reason I feel alone ♪ (pop rock music) (gentle music)